Hi, everyone. First of all sorry for my English )
So I have some question for all of you. How much does architectural project or design project cost in your country now? I mean how much does an architect can get for his job?
I understand that there are different stages of projects in different countries and there are many things which have an influence on price. However… If you have your private client who wants to have project of house or interior and he asked you “How much money do you want for your job?” And what will you answer him?
For example in the capital of Ukraine Kiev an architect can get for his job:
- architectural project of building - from 15$ per square meter of building’s total area
- design project of interior - from 10$ per square meter of object’s total area
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How much does architectural project cost in your country?
Started by Pavel Pavlenko, Dec 11 2011 07:17 PM
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:24 PM
Well, here in the Philippines there are supposed to be "standard" design fees for different projects. a certain percentage of project cost for, say, a residence, another for a commercial building, another for institutional buildings...etc. But due to cutthroat competition, the normal rate is only 3% of project cost per project, then it gets smaller as the project is larger, say 1% for a condominium building or 0.5% of project cost for a Twin Tower Project.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:34 PM
Hi! Here in Brazil the prices charged are a bit complicated, because they differ by the type of project. The class is not united and there is a general cooperation. In an architectural firm may consider the value of working an average of $ 3,000.00 (equivalent to $ 1,600) In particular projects, around 10% of the work orsometimes $ 35.00 m² (equivalent to $ 18.00).
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:46 PM
Hi to all; here in Italy the cost changes in function of the total ammount of the work and in function of wath an architect is in charge to do. For example, in an interior design work, a complete design of the lay out; prevision of furniture and fittings; light design and any other details, including the project management can cost average from 10 to 15% of the total amount of the work
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:51 PM
In Canada it really depends on the project(how complicated it is), and the architect (if you specialize in something, etc) But on average, fixed fees generally range in the 5-10% of the total project value, with 6% be a general number.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:56 PM
hi there, here in italy the point actually is "how to be paid".
we had some references until some years ago (a bit complicated but "a reference") but that government change the rules they said "do as you please".
usually it's about 8-10% of the amount for a new bulding or a restoration, starting from the real budget of the main cost (except the interior design, about furniture, lights and so on). bigger amount, less %.
about interior design the real architects they have some "enemies" without diploma they are paid sometimes less, but they had also a different way to be taxed.
think about something like the 42% of our incoming is for "taxes"
anyway i told you. the main problem is to be paid
we had some references until some years ago (a bit complicated but "a reference") but that government change the rules they said "do as you please".
usually it's about 8-10% of the amount for a new bulding or a restoration, starting from the real budget of the main cost (except the interior design, about furniture, lights and so on). bigger amount, less %.
about interior design the real architects they have some "enemies" without diploma they are paid sometimes less, but they had also a different way to be taxed.
think about something like the 42% of our incoming is for "taxes"
anyway i told you. the main problem is to be paid
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 10:47 PM
In Kosovo the building projects in general are paid around 1-2 euros/m2. Last year I did a project and I was paid around 5 euros/m2. As concerns to the interior it goes: 5-10 euros/m2. The prices are like this in almost 90 % of cases.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 11:16 PM
Paka Pavel,
In France for rather small scale projects it goes like this
For totaly new projects it's around 7 % to 8 %. But if you are a young begining but lucky arquitect you could be possibly be given 3% on a small scale housing project because you are not suposed to have a great expenrience yet, even though you wond the competition for this project ....
For renovation project, or extention of an already existing project, house or small building it can start with a 12 % ... and go to 14 % if you have more experience or 15 % if you are an already famous architect ...
For greater public buildings and major public projects it's i guess decreasing with the importance of the project as the cost rises, but i couldn't tell precisely.
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In France for rather small scale projects it goes like this
For totaly new projects it's around 7 % to 8 %. But if you are a young begining but lucky arquitect you could be possibly be given 3% on a small scale housing project because you are not suposed to have a great expenrience yet, even though you wond the competition for this project ....
For renovation project, or extention of an already existing project, house or small building it can start with a 12 % ... and go to 14 % if you have more experience or 15 % if you are an already famous architect ...
For greater public buildings and major public projects it's i guess decreasing with the importance of the project as the cost rises, but i couldn't tell precisely.
Dasvidania.
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 04:47 AM
What a great topic Pavel.
I'm in the US and this seems to be a frequent topic that comes up with colleagues and friends. I don’t believe there are any standards here, especially now with the economy being what it is. There are some architects doing projects now for extremely low fees. I’m not sure how they are even covering overhead costs.
For most projects, my firm usually uses this approach:
Our fees take several factors into account. The size of the project, the complexity, and scope of services a client requires. Usually, our services through the Design Development Phase are on a T & M basis. Once the project and scope have been defined, we can move to a contractual fee structure. The total architectural services for most projects usually ends up ranging from 5% to about 12% depending on the type of project, the complexity and the services required.
I really find it interesting that there are some who charge fees based on square footages or square meters. How do you account for the range of project complexities or the unique needs of particular clients?
I'm in the US and this seems to be a frequent topic that comes up with colleagues and friends. I don’t believe there are any standards here, especially now with the economy being what it is. There are some architects doing projects now for extremely low fees. I’m not sure how they are even covering overhead costs.
For most projects, my firm usually uses this approach:
Our fees take several factors into account. The size of the project, the complexity, and scope of services a client requires. Usually, our services through the Design Development Phase are on a T & M basis. Once the project and scope have been defined, we can move to a contractual fee structure. The total architectural services for most projects usually ends up ranging from 5% to about 12% depending on the type of project, the complexity and the services required.
I really find it interesting that there are some who charge fees based on square footages or square meters. How do you account for the range of project complexities or the unique needs of particular clients?
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 10:45 AM
R.Kaz, on 12 December 2011 - 04:47 AM, said:
What a great topic Pavel.
I'm in the US and this seems to be a frequent topic that comes up with colleagues and friends. I don’t believe there are any standards here, especially now with the economy being what it is. There are some architects doing projects now for extremely low fees. I’m not sure how they are even covering overhead costs.
For most projects, my firm usually uses this approach:
Our fees take several factors into account. The size of the project, the complexity, and scope of services a client requires. Usually, our services through the Design Development Phase are on a T & M basis. Once the project and scope have been defined, we can move to a contractual fee structure. The total architectural services for most projects usually ends up ranging from 5% to about 12% depending on the type of project, the complexity and the services required.
I really find it interesting that there are some who charge fees based on square footages or square meters. How do you account for the range of project complexities or the unique needs of particular clients?
I'm in the US and this seems to be a frequent topic that comes up with colleagues and friends. I don’t believe there are any standards here, especially now with the economy being what it is. There are some architects doing projects now for extremely low fees. I’m not sure how they are even covering overhead costs.
For most projects, my firm usually uses this approach:
Our fees take several factors into account. The size of the project, the complexity, and scope of services a client requires. Usually, our services through the Design Development Phase are on a T & M basis. Once the project and scope have been defined, we can move to a contractual fee structure. The total architectural services for most projects usually ends up ranging from 5% to about 12% depending on the type of project, the complexity and the services required.
I really find it interesting that there are some who charge fees based on square footages or square meters. How do you account for the range of project complexities or the unique needs of particular clients?
Hello Rodney
I understand that my question is a little incorrect. It is too difficult for me to explain how architects work in Ukraine ) But I’ll try to do that.
In Ukraine there are two types of clients (or contracts) for architects:
- the government contract. In Ukraine if some lucky architect or architectural firm has a government contract for design of some new building or interior they have to use the special rates approved by government for different design works. These rates are very different and it's very difficult to say how much an architect will get for his work. But... A lot )
- the private contract. If you are owner of an architectural firm or you have the special architectural licence for design works (like me) you can do private contracts. And in this case you can take so much as you want. Of course if your client is agree with your price ) Of course you have to share some part of money with your colleagues such as structural engineer, electrical engineer etc. But first of all an architect does conceptual design (I don't know how this project's stage is called in the US) for understanding how difficult the project will be, how long it will take, how many stages it will have, how many other people will work together etc. But main thing which has influence on price is building’s (object’s) total area.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:12 AM
In my last project of call center, with all specialties including, interior architecture, electrical, mechanical, fire, health, security, CCTV and access control wiring pipes, will not be able 10 dollars per square meter. In Venezuela, the crisis friends ...
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